Call it one more "coincidence" to add the growing and growing list of coincidences against PUMA.
Hillary Clinton's registrar information:
Administrative Contact:
Hillary Clinton for President info@hillaryclinton.com
4420 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
US
703-469-2008 fax: 703-962-8600
Barack Obama's Registrar information:
Administrative Contact:
Admin, Admin admin@barackobama.com
Obama for America
233 N. Michigan Ave
Suite 1100
Chicago, Illinois 60601
United States
3128192008
John McCain's registrar information:
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
And like we've already mentioned, the slew of PUMA sister sites that rapidly turned pro-mccain. Like stop-obama.org who was in bed with Free Republic:
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
stop-obama.org@domainsbyproxy.com
Remember our other story about this? HERE
Why is Senator McCain's information private just like the PUMA sites? Why isn't his site paid for by "McCain for America" just like Senator Obama's, Senator Clinton's, and John McCain's ads?
Questions, questions, questions. The evidence just continues to mount. My question for PUMAs though- when does all of this stop becoming coincidence?
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Oh, I will Jesse! It just gets more and more obvious!
Posted by: Christina | July 05, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I am a life long Democrat and yes, I am a PUMA. Why? Because WE DON'T WANT THAT EMPTY SUIT WHO IS CONTROLLED BY OTHERS TAKING OVER THE DEMOCRAT PARTY OR THE NATION!!!
Posted by: Dinah | July 06, 2008 at 02:26 AM
Dinah time to take off your rose colored glasses
The GOP controls PUMA so the GOP controls you.
You are NO DEMOCRAT!!
Good going Christina !!
Posted by: Wendy ~ Dem4life | July 06, 2008 at 03:30 AM
Hey, somebody should ask a puma where all of that money that they are raising for "buses to Denver" is actually going. I won't be shocked when Diarrhea Murphy gets indicted for election fraud when she uses all of the money donated to Puma Pac to, I don't know, buy a nice dinner for her family at Applebee's?
Posted by: Pumalicious! | July 06, 2008 at 08:46 AM
Dinah- yes! Take the side of the people who create this!
http://www.fedupwithhillary.com/index.html
Because Democrats are at fault, right? We are the bad guys...
Posted by: Christina | July 06, 2008 at 09:16 AM
I scan Google News to see if the Pumas are getting any real media attention.
Appropriately, the only outlet that has recently mentioned Ms. Murphy and the pumas is Comedy Central:
http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/07/02/former-john-mccain-supports-jumps-ship-to-support-john-mccain/
Posted by: Jeff | July 06, 2008 at 10:35 AM
If you use the word "EXCLUSIVE" buses you can charge 200.00 per person for the ride. And make sure to put that big Palpal button right under there. I worked at a travel agency and for that kinda money people could get a bus ride, a night in a hotel with a couple meals and a show ticket. Someone lining their pockets,, maybe Murphy needs another new computer to put next to her other 2,, they are being conned BIG TIME.
Why are people falling for this shit???
Posted by: Wendy ~ Dem4life | July 06, 2008 at 01:12 PM
Good question Wendy.
Why,for example,is there no type of counter(posted on the site)to keep track of the money people are donating?
Why has no round about figure been presented as to the cost for this road trip?
Who is being held accountable for money being given, and the use of it, to pumapac?
There are many more questions one could ask but for whatever reason no one is.
I guess the pumapac site is being run on the mushroom theory.........Which is......
Keep Them In The Dark And Feed Them All Shit.
Posted by: pumabot | July 06, 2008 at 04:03 PM
So when do the pumas have to report their funds raised? Aren't the required to publicly report since they're a 527? Will the number be three or four digits in length? Inquiring minds want to know!
Posted by: Pumalicious! | July 06, 2008 at 04:53 PM
hahaha pumabot, that is my new favorite quote!
Posted by: Christina | July 06, 2008 at 04:54 PM
Glad you liked it Christina.
I don't post much but it upsets me how pumapac has so many people buffaloed. It's as though some of them are stuck on stupid and are letting their pride get in the way of their intelligence.
I sometimes wonder what kind of kool-aid murphy is pouring for the puma's, It seems to be making them deaf, blind and ummm dumb.
I happen to be in sales and a concoction like that could do wonders for my bank account.
Just a thought
Posted by: pumabot | July 06, 2008 at 06:21 PM
These people would probably be ripe pickings for those Nigerian scam artists.
"Ten million dollars? That will get a lot of Pumas to Denver!!1!"
Posted by: Pumalicious! | July 06, 2008 at 07:02 PM
It really is sad.
So many people have a feeling of wanting to belong to something so bad, they will sell their soul just to be a part of it.
The false hope some of the puma's have about Hillary somehow rising from the ashes is silly. She has already said she is done.
People like murphy, and her goofy backers, play on the insecurities of those people, to set up this dumb ass conflict we now have.
When it comes to being scammed.....ACCOUNTABILITY...is a question i would most certainly be asking if I "donated" money to pumapac.
Once again... JMHO
Posted by: pumabot | July 06, 2008 at 11:31 PM
One thing you should keep in mind about "DomainsByProxy": it's a privacy-preserving system used by domain registrars like GoDaddy. It allows you to own a domain without having to expose your name, address, phone number, etc. to the whole world. I actually use this service at http://pumacentral.org and there's nothing inherently insidious about it. The fact that it happens to reside in Arizona is probably just a coincidence.
That's not to say that these PUMA web sites aren't ratfucking operations, but the registration via DomainsByProxy is not by itself evidence of a McCain linkage.
It is interesting, however, that McCain's campaign uses the exact same privacy-preserving service as the PUMA blogs use.
Posted by: Cello | July 07, 2008 at 03:26 AM
The "coincidence" here is the very obvious matter that EVERY PUMA sister site uses this privacy service. There are many other privacy services out there. And every single one is registered through godaddy.
I know many people DO register through godaddy, but not EVERY single person.
Posted by: Christina | July 07, 2008 at 08:38 AM
Well, it’s either gonna be McCain/Palin or …
Barack Obama starring as “Change” the Gardener in remake of movie classic, “Being There”, starring Peter Sellers as “Chance” the Gardener!
*HT to hs commenting on
puma4palin.blogspot.com
Posted by: Ted | July 07, 2008 at 01:41 PM
I just wanted to add a quick note about Go Daddy here (and the obvious penchant for freaks to use the service in the PUMA manner)
Go Daddy sells domain name registration for $2. So, someone could get 100 domains names and then host their files on, say, Dreamhost, which offers unlimited domains on one account (just pay the hosting fee for one domain- no need to register domain names with them).
So, to make it simple for the PUMAs- someone with a little over $200 can register 100 domain NAMES with Go Daddy and have all of the registration info HIDDEN (Domains By Proxy). Then they can host the files for those 100 domain names on ONE DreamHost account- where there would be no domain registration info (because the DOMAIN isn't registered with them, so they don't care).
$200 (GD) + $22 (DH with coupon) + a little bit of time on your hands = 100 PUMA sites
This was a public service announcement for anyone doubting that this is all possible. It's very cheap and easy.
Posted by: JJ | July 09, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Thank you JJ for expressing our very thoughts with such rationale.
Posted by: Christina | July 09, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Funny, even Wikipedia has the acronym correct:
PUMA ("Party Unity My Ass"[1] or "People United Means Action") is a nationwide grassroots[2] network predominantly comprising....
Who was that on TV trying say "Means Action?"
I would bet there are around 1000 of them, and those numbers have stabilized, and are about to plummet.
Posted by: Furious Vegas | July 09, 2008 at 11:27 PM
It's facinating to me that PUMAs are all too willing to send their donations to the 'cause' rather than to Clinton's campaign debt which is piling up quickly as the bills continue to roll in.
I mean, given the math, if each person who voted for Clinton sent just a buck twenty-five, she'd be in the black and, given PUMA math, it would still be under two bucks per Poo-mer.
Yeah, i'm highly interested in seeing some solid numbers here. It's the P&L geek in me coming out.
Posted by: David | July 31, 2008 at 03:31 AM
Obama or conservative trolls trying to cause strife among the Puma forces, isn't going to work. The movement is much bigger than Hillary being cheated now, it is about country, principles and democracy and not letting Obama and DNC get away with fraudulent practices witnessed by our very own eyes. The movement isn't about whether or not 1 Puma gave some money to McCain prior to seeing debates and seeing how great Hillary came across and deciding to go for her and fight for her. The money you are talking about is peanuts compared to the big money Obama gave to campaigns of all the delegates. You troublemakers need to get a life and blog with substance other than nasty accusations that are meaningless. You Puma moles need to go back into your tunnels.
Posted by: CountryB4party | August 10, 2008 at 10:48 PM